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Responding to Critics: The contrast of Perry Noble and Brian Mclaren
 
 

As I was re-reading Brian Mclaren’s illuminating chapter on the subject of fasting in Finding Our Way Again, he was explaining the impact that the spiritual practice of fasting has made in his life.  Mainly, he found that as he intentionally said “no” to some of his desires and impulses for a time, it has had a cumulative effect that has enabled him to say “no” to the larger temptations in life. One of those temptations he found himself facing was in desiring to respond harshly to critics of his writings and theology.  

Here’s what he wrote:  

“I think back to last week, when someone sent me a link to a website where a critic of my work indulged in some high-flying religious character assassination.  My reaction to being misrepresented, insulted, and mocked was quite literally visceral.  I felt something tighten in my gut, strangely similar in some ways to the craving for a chocolate-covered glazed doughnut.  I started thinking about ways I could get back at this fellow, things I could write that would prove to him and to all virtual reality who the better man is.  It was a kind of hunger…for revenge, I’m ashamed to say, and for self-justification, and to win and to hurt rather than lose and be hurt.  And sitting here now, I wonder if my ability to let that feeling go last week didn’t have something to do with letting five hundred calories drop behind the Thank You sign on a trash can door one day.  A little practice at impulse control, a little practice at facing my weakness, a little practice at laughing at my pretensions to maturity and spirituality, and a new possibility was actualized…thanks to a tradition carried by a community, embodied in some mentors who shared “elbow knowledge” with me.  They say that practice makes perfect, but I wouldn’t know about that.  What I do know is that practice makes possible some things that would otherwise have been impossible.”   

Reading through Brian’s gained wisdom gives me hope that over the next 20 or 30 years in ministry, I will be able to make the same wise decision to respond graciously as well and not satisfy my carnal urges for revenge. As I thought through this I realized that thanks to Out of Ur and a whole host of other bloggers, Perry Noble has come to serve as a contrast to the kind of graciousness of which Mclaren wrote.   

I write this not to indict Perry Noble, for I do not know him, nor do I fully understand the stress that he is under as a leader in a large church.  But it seems from the videos that he has not been able to say no to the temptation to respond to critics in a way that would be described as “less than generous”.  As I read Brian’s description about what he initially desires to do but refrained from; namely, “getting back” at his critic, “proving to him who the better man is”, “seeking revenge”, “self-justification”, “having a desire to win”, I couldn’t stop thinking of those words describing adequately what Perry Noble has been seeking by videotaping his responses to critics and then posting them on YouTube the following week.   

And sadly, while there are plenty of other venues available when you fall into the trap of feeling the need to justify yourself, he has chosen to use the stage from which God has given him the responsibility of preaching His Word on Sundays.  I think once you start using the “pulpit” to respond to public critics and bloggers, the church ceases to be about a gathered community of Christ-followers worshiping together, and more about a pastor dealing with the hurt that comes from critics taking shots.  Sunday morning is far from the ideal platform to respond to critics and unfortunately it is on those mornings where his videos have gone from ironic and embarrassing (talking bad about pastors who talk bad about pastors from the stage), to straight up self-justification (scoreboard).  No doubt, as pastors we all need to process the hurt and anxiety that comes from critics, some of which are more justified in their opinion that others.  But that place doesn’t come on Sunday morning in a sermon.  It comes from trusted mentors and spiritual friends who will help us process why the critics’ voice feels so destructive to our soul.   

And in processing the contrast of Mclaren and Noble this week, my prayer is that I will have the ability to say no to those urges that rise up within me as a pastor to seek recognition, attention, justification, and self-worth from the ministry that Jesus has commissioned me with and instead look to the person of Jesus himself who tells me that my worth and value come from what he has done through his death and resurrection and are ultimately found in God alone.


Dustin Bagby lives in Portland, OR, blogs at  www.dustball.blogspot.com, is married to his beautiful wife Kelli, is a huge Chicago Bears and Cubs fan, and is a teaching pastor at The Evergreen Community.

 


RECENT COMMENTS


ha, i think he's a real person. looks like he's probably just copied and pasted this response to anyone who mentions mclaren.


okay...is Scott Leonard a real person or a bot? Because I swear I just read this last paragraph word-for-word on another post.


hey preachinjesus - this was prompted by videos of Perry Noble responding in sermons to critics of video venues, etc. You can find them on You Tube simply by searching his name and "scoreboard", "video venues", etc (although there will be nothing beneficial about watching them :). After seeing these videos I was preparing a sermon on the practice of fasting and happened to re-read Mclaren's chapter on how the practice enabled him to say "no" when the desire to lash out at critics came up. In any case, I found the contrast to be notable and instructive for us as pastors.


Maybe I'm missing something (which I usually am) but what is the exact issue here?

I mean, I'm not a fan of Pastor Noble. I think he is too brash and is too spiritually immature for that kind of platform. But what exactly has he done to promulgate this post?

Just curious. The point is an excellent one. We need to remember how we respond is just as meaningfully as what we say in responding.


Dustin, it was great to make your acquaintance in DC last week. Thanks for your thoughts here on a very important topic. This seems to be an insightful snapshot of what happens when doctrinal purity (of a purely intellectual variety) takes precedence over faithfulness to discipleship. These different emphases lend themselves to different methods of response It's fascinating to me that Brian could be labeled by so may as someone with no regard for the atoning work of Jesus when he so clearly aspires to follow him in absorbing the attacks of others as opposed to returning evil for evil.


Religion + ego + a national stage = a volatile cocktail. Americans thrive on big-media personalities, a vicious circle which breeds megalomaniacs and narcissists. A perfect example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQcp-J-3njw


I have a feeling that when Paul "opposed [Peter] to his face", there were a few who thought Paul was wrong in what he did. When the Holy Spirit spoke to every one of us through Paul,(twice within two verses) in Galatians 1..."If anyone is preaching a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed"...I bet He knew there would be many who, instead of heeding the urgency and severity of this warning, would be ready to criticize those who took it seriously or echoed it. Most religions have fasting as one of their practices and all religions have some truth. As long as Brian Mclaren continues to ooze out a false gospel, he and you can expect the Holy Spirit to urge the faithful to oppose him. Please refer to the above passages prayerfully before you draw conclusions about their actions. They should always be done in love, but they should always be done. God help those who don't recognize truth from deadly error.

The amazing and sad thing to me is how long it has taken for some Evangelicals to recognize the age-old false teaching of Brian McLaren. His inability to embrace the integrity and inspiration of Scriptures, and his complete lack of appreciation for the work of Christ on the cross are only part of the sinking sand he plays in. You could walk him through one chapter of Paul's writing (any chapter of your choice) and destroy most of what he teaches. He apparently hates actual analysis of a full passage of Scripture. We are about ten years from reaching every language and people group on the planet with the gospel. For that you can thank the visionaries, pioneers and prayer warriors who embraced the hermeneutic and theology McLaren eschews. Ask the 100 million Evangelicals in China if they think Brian's ideas come from their Savior. Ditto the Christians in Africa-45% of the population. With all sincerity, I propose that if we were to disseminate his 'gospel' en masse, we would guarantee that the Church never fulfill Jesus' plan for the world-the one he instructed us in and for which he died.


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